Total Nerd 14 Lessons We Hope Marvel Learned From Iron Fist  

Zack Howe
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List Rules Vote up the things you really hope Marvel learned from Iron Fist's first season.

Netflix’s debut of the last Defender was, let’s face it, a dud. Like getting socks on Christmas. But not even nice socks: socks that your grandpa wore in WWII that (hopefully) have more sentimental value than actual remaining fabric. Iron Fist was a story about an annoying main character played by a subpar actor who, along with the writers, was apparently unaware of his purpose. Point is, there are some things Iron Fist taught us that hopefully the writers and Netflix showrunners noted, too.

As previously alluded, bad acting and/or casting bear some burden of blame for Iron Fist’s underwhelming reception, but much (if not most) of this show’s failures stem from the poor writing and execution. The Marvel crew over at Netflix is on a slippery slope because this show leads directly into the first team-up series, The Defenders. If they don’t regain their traction, they’ll risk losing the trust of a once loyal and avid fanbase—it would be a shame to squander such a heretofore successful franchise.

And, as it appears that Danny Rand may very well be the central figure of The Defenders, Netflix better figure this thing out quick. So let’s dive into the lessons we learned from Iron Fist and hope that they’re listening. Ahem... got that, Netflix? Quit screwing around!

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Maybe Don't Hire The Guy Who Did The Last Three Seasons Of Dexter As Your Showrunner

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Netflix’s Marvel universe started off with a bang when Daredevil came out. Drew Goddard, who has a long list of successful projects under his belt—he wrote the screenplays for The Martian and World War Z and wrote and directed The Cabin in the Woods—ran the show. Fast-forward to the introductory season of the last Defender and we’re given Scott Buck of Tremors 4 fame. Was it Tremors 4 that earned him the gig, which has a 32% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes and doesn’t even have an actual RT score because it was a straight-to-video movie? Is that what qualified him? Maybe it was his work as the executive producer for the last three seasons of Dexter, the worst seasons of the once-popular Showtime program with one of the most hated endings in recent television history. An ending for which Scott Buck was largely responsible. How did Netflix start with such a high-level talent and end with… not that? The Netflix Marvel properties were hugely popular; you’d think the showrunners would only become more and more A-list, not less so.

The Defenders is in the hands of Daredevil Season 2 showrunners Marco Ramirez and Doug Petrie who have already proven that they can’t balance a litany of characters very well, given that every other character simply paled in comparison to Frank Castle. Good thing they won’t have many characters to juggle in the team-up season… 

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It's A Good Idea To Check Your Script For Plot Holes

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Danny is caught on camera punching a hole in a wall to escape a psychiatric facility, and no one brings it up ever again. At the facility, a patient tried to kill Danny and then was appointed Danny’s tour guide. There’s no way to do a DNA test to prove Danny is a Rand because his family is dead, and their medical records were physically stored in one place, making them surprisingly easy to wipe from the face of the earth. Danny can drive. The ongoing issue of not including the other Defenders persists—it’s one thing when the Marvel Cinematic Universe struggles with this when it’s a literal universe, but there are two other people available in New York City that Claire personally knows who are never brought in as backup. Harold Meachum returns to his company after being dead for 15 years, and no one questions it, even though one of the executives just "killed himself" inside the building, but mostly because of the whole being-dead-for-15-years thing. Colleen’s dojo is virtually demolished in episode 12 by the DEA that Harold somehow convinces to raid a dojo in an attempt to catch Danny Rand who has somehow become a wanted man but don't worry, because the dojo is in tip-top shape in episode 13. The list goes on and on and on and on to the point of becoming comical. The writers almost had to actively try to make a show that made such little sense. 

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Your Lead Character Probably Shouldn't Be Your Worst Actor

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Finn Jones only knows how to frown, apparently. He held one face for the entire season—it’s probably one he made too much as a kid and it got stuck that way. His mom warned him. Not her fault.

Jones had no authority; this was very evident in the scene where he takes over a class in Colleen’s dojo to teach the students discipline and just looks like a caricature in so doing. At times it was hard to tell if Danny lacked focus and discipline or if Finn Jones just couldn’t properly convey those attributes. It’s too bad because there were some really great performances. Colleen, Joy, and Ward were all intriguing characters portrayed with something called “skill” by Jessica Henwick, Jessica Stroup, and Jess— Tom Pelphrey, respectively. Hopefully, with Jones not being the focal point in The Defenders (although there's some speculation that he sort of is) they can avoid this same issue.

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Viewers Need A Reason To Care About These Characters And Their Stories

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It seems the writers decided that the most important element of Danny Rand's story was regaining his rightful place as heir to Rand Corp. First of all, that's rather small potatoes compared to a larger world issue, i.e., the cliffhanger of the entire season: Danny failing in his singular duty to protect K’un-Lun, apparently allowing the Hand to infiltrate the heavenly city. But why exactly should we care about that when we need to find out about Danny's stock options? This is a big deal because the main character’s sole purpose is to defend this place where he was essentially made, not to mention the fact that this is looking more and more like it will be the crux of The Defenders’ story, but there was so little in Iron Fist that actually had anything to do with K’un-Lun that we can’t really care about it.

In fact, the rare representation of it was pretty negative. Davos is a bloodthirsty warrior who’s envious enough of his friend that he’s plotting his death. Danny’s ghost sensei tells him he failed by not allowing the chemist’s daughter to die in order to complete the ultimate goal of destroying the Hand, or you know, at least one person who might be affiliated with the Hand. 

Quick prediction as a side note—you ready for this? POTENTIAL SPOILER ALERT!!

Madame Gao is an Iron Fist. Boom! You heard it here first.

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