People Are Discussing Movie And TV Villains That Most Deserved To Win

List Rules
Vote up the villains that lost but deserved the W.

Not every villain should have lost. From a certain perspective, some villains not only seem like the hero but they also deserve to win over the so-called heroes. These people are having a heated discussion on Reddit over which of those villains should have come out on top. 


  • 1
    16 VOTES

    Lex Luthor - 'Smallville'

    From Redditor u/MadPoetModGod:

    Smallville's version of Luthor was really just a guy who was being lied to by literally every single person in his life (including Superman FFS) and trying super hard not to be the ruthless scumbag his father was for like the first 5 seasons until he finally cracked.

    I mean his dad not only tried to turn him into some Machiavellian übermensch but then turned right around and was like 'Clark is special, you're not. I loved your dead brother better. You're a dud, f*cking beat it.' Years of that plus the infinite resources of being a billionaire would be enough to make anyone go full-throttle psycho.

    You seriously get the impression that all the nastiness could have been avoided if Clark had told him how he survived the car wreck in the first d*mn episode.

    16 votes
  • 2
    19 VOTES

    The Grinch - 'How The Grinch Stole Christmas'

    From Redditor u/IHazMagics:

    The Grinch.

    In the original cartoon he just wanted peace and quiet alone on his mountain, but Whoville was the equivalent of that shit neighbour who's all like 'guess who's listening to shitty folk music for the next umm days.'

    Then in the movie, he got bullied for liking a girl and developing faster than the others (facial hair). The main bully, guess who he turns out to be? The Mother. F*cking. Mayor.

    The Grinch just wants to peacefully exist, but people keep f*cking with his Zen.

    19 votes
  • From Redditor u/sotonohito:

    I've long maintained that Deckard is the actual villain in the movie (the book too, though it is portrayed in a more ambiguous light and I've got a whole 'nother rant about the book). We don't see it because villain protagonist movies are extremely rare, and we love Harrison Ford so much that it's hard to see him as the villain.

    But think about it: his job is to hunt down and kill escaped slaves.

    Like most escaped slaves, Roy Batty and his fellows weren't what you'd call all that concerned with the lives of the master class. Why should they be? And more important, they really couldn't afford to be if they wanted to keep their freedom. This parallels real life quite nicely. 

    I maintain that while Batty and the gang weren't exactly good guys, they were the heroes of the movie. Look at how we cheered when Django killed Ms. Candie, she didn't own any slaves, she was legally forbidden from owning property of any sort, she wasn't a good person, but she was far from the monster her brother was. But we cheered when Django said, 'say goodbye to Ms. Lara' and shot her.

    The only reason we didn't cheer when Batty beat the crap out of Deckard is because we'd been tricked (and very well done it was) into sympathizing with him.

    8 votes
  • 4
    8 VOTES

    Amon - 'The Legend of Korra'

    From Redditor u/Reckion:

    Amon from Legend of Korra. That society /was/ incredibly predjudicial against non-benders. No benders were allowed in the ruling political body, non-lethal self-defense classes and weapons were outlawed, non-benders (seemingly) didnt have any right to protections against unreasonable search and seizure. All while majorly destructive bending fights that endangered the public were common, and a bending mafia held monopoly on crime.

    Honestly, I have never rooted for the bad guys harder. That show was hilariously pro-fascist.

    8 votes
  • From Redditor u/EmbryH:

    Prince Nuada from Hellboy 2.

    His people and his planet were being utterly destroyed by humans, and his father stood by and let it happen as the forces of nature were brutally killed. Nuada might have been a liiitttllle too genocidal, but if nothing else he would have brought humanity back into some semblance of balance with the world.

    11 votes
  • 6
    20 VOTES

    Wile E. Coyote - 'Looney Tunes'

    From Redditor u/nojihad:

    Coyote, for the sheer amount hard work...

    From Redditor u/EltonJuan:

    Most cartoons had this dynamic when I was growing up. I remember not liking Roadrunner or Bugs Bunny or Tweety or Jerry, among others. They were either smart a**es or just boring compared to their counterparts. The fact that I knew the antagonist was always going to lose made the 'bad guys' seem like the underdogs worth rooting for. This was particularly the case with Coyote since his story perspective is the one we're with the whole time. We really don't know anything about Roadrunner outside of 'he always wins.'

    20 votes